Issue # 381
Date:
Wednesday November 3rd, 1999 10:37 am
The Wrestling Booking Sheet
SMACKDOWN SPOILER
At the conclusion of
this issue we have the results for Thursdays
Smackdown, taped
11/2/1999 in Philadelphia,
PA. Remember, if you would
rather be surprised,
please skip that section.
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THE "KEVIN McMAHON"
SKIT
Written by reader:
Christopher J Cassidy (ccassidy)
Let me give you my
perspective on the Nash situation, and maybe expand
on what the other
reader wrote. Kevin Nash, bottom line, would not be
where he is in
wrestling without Vince McMahon. He had already had a
failed run with WCW
when Vince brought him in. Vince's promotional
machine made "Diesel"
a household name. Who will ever forget Nash's PPV
match with Shawn
Michaels in
Omaha? It wasn't just that
Shawn carried
Nash, Nash was
actually carrying his end of matches pretty well against
guys like Michaels and
Hart, as well as Hall, in the WWF.
When Nash took the
guaranteed money of WCW, any semblance of workrate
went out the window.
Since his payoffs were not dependent on match
quality or crowd heat,
he lost whatever pride he had in his work. Nash
brought with him a
reputation as such a witty and hilarious guy. As has
been pointed out by
many, Hall's absence exposed Nash as an overgrown,
lazy, immature goof.
Nash without Hall = boredom. Too bad Hall has been
equally exposed as a
death pool statistic waiting to happen.
They are simply
caricatures of their former selves. Vince McMahon
provided the framework
and discipline for both of them to excel. WCW
has provided anything
but. I'm sure that Nash thought the whole thing
was a riot. I'm
equally sure that not many others did. Clearly a case
of someone getting a
little too big for their britches. The sad thing
is that for all of
McMahon's faults, he has shown time and again that
he is the king of
"second chances". Hopefully that won't be the case
with Hall and Nash
when the time comes (and it will).
-Christopher J Cassidy
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WHO MADE WRESTLING?
Written by reader:
VAidoo
I take you up on your
challenge...Vince didn't make wrestling.,Paul
Heyman/ECW
did...wrestling was not where it is not until WWF stole
ECW's concepts. And
even though you may deny it, its the truth.
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Steve Appy
responds:
First of all, neither
McMahon or Heyman "made wrestling". I totally
agree with you that
McMahon did borrow (some would call it steal) ECW's
hardcore edge and
brought it onto the national stage. Heyman presented
a similar product with
very little resources, and its influence totally
changed the business.
While he was the first to bring "garbage
wrestling" into
prominence in the
United States, Heyman was the
innovator of the
concept, not the entire business. I don't think this
was ever actually in
question, though.
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HHH AS THE WWF
CHAMPION
Written by reader:
JKASMULDER
HHH is not my favorite
wrestler by a long shot. But, he is pretty far
away from being my
least favorite. That having been said, I think the
way his role as
champion is being played is pathetic. Here, we have a
champion that can't
beat anybody, really. He gets slaughtered by the
Rock and
Stone Cold, and even
has a problem against Shane McMahon. He keeps his
belt every time he
faces an opponent, but never even comes close to
fighting the good
fight.
Don't get me wrong, I
am not saying that he shouldn't cheat. What I am
saying is that he
should be allowed to look like he belongs in the ring
with the likes of a
Stone Cold or a Rock.
The problem becomes
even more evident when you see Stone Cold in the
last couple of
televised events putting over Val Venis and Bad Ass
Billy Gunn. Those were
real matches where Stone Cold was actually
dominated for a
portion of time. If
those two guys are given a chance to shine
against the main event
athlete in sports entertainment, then surely,
the champion should
get that same kind of push, as well. Just a
thought.
-Jamie
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CONGRATULATIONS TO
VADER
Written by reader:
Kevin Bryce (KevinBryce)
I would just like to
congratulate Vader on his victory over Misawa to
win the Prestigious
Triple Crown for the 2nd time this year. Watching
Vader in All Japan
Pro-Wrestling is so much better than watching him in
the circus in
New York. In Japan, Vader can
work stiff, and he doesn't
have to be involved in
a stupid angle to get over. He is over on his
ability!!!
His feud with Kobashi
was great, and I remember the ***3/4 match where
Vader really worked
stiff with Kenta, eventually making Kobashi cough
up blood. Vader in
Japan is a monster, and when
used right he is
brilliant to watch.
Because there aren't
many big guy's in
Japan, Vader is hugely over.
However, the man still
has to perform, and this year he has done that.
Well done big guy!!!
Thanks,
Kevin Bryce
P.S. I hope Misawa
isn't out for too long. The man is awesome and is
truly the best in the
world!!!
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AN OLD NASH PROMO
Written by reader: Lee
Relph (LEEINBLACK)
After reading the
piece in WBS no. 378 about Kevin Nash charging for
his autograph, I
remembered a promo clip he appeared in for the WWF
when he was the WWF
champ Diesel, back in 1995.
In the clip, he was at
a personal appearance and he signed a photo of
himself and handed it
to a small girl. The girl then offered Diesel her
money but he declined
saying "No, I don't want your money." Then the
voice over tag line
was "The World Wrestling Federation - We care about
our fans."
I know that Nash is
now in WCW but it is still pretty ironic, don't you
think??
-LEE
RELPH
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AUTOGRAPH SESSIONS
Written by reader:
Lisa Maraschin (Lisamara)
I wanted to comment on
the subject of "Autograph Sessions"... The
public sees the
wrestler/entertainer/sports star on TV every week. For
some people, in their
own minds, they are like family. Then, when we
happen to see them in
public or at an autograph session it can
sometimes be
surprising to the public or fan that the person is not the
guy or girl from TV.
He or she can be a
really down-to-earth person, in some cases a jerk or
someone who is not
having the best day and may wish that he or she
could be somewhere
else. It is not fair for the public or a fan to
expect for a "star" to
be "on" all of the time. I am not making
excuses, everyone has
their faults. That is what makes us human.
When an autograph
session is held it is for purpose of making money or
promoting something
(tickets on sale, etc.). The wrestler is paid a set
fee for making an
appearance or it may be a "contractual" thing that
they be there. I'll
use a sports card shop as an example.
Like has been
mentioned in previous posts, the card shop makes some
money and it is also
covering the cost of the wrestler's expenses.
Plus, the card shop
has pictures and other stuff autographed after the
public leaves to sell
and make a few dollars more. The wrestler makes a
few bucks. Being in
the tax bracket that they are in and to off set it,
some of the guys give
the money to their favorite charities. They do it
without a lot of fan
fair or without looking for a pat on the back.
I have read in other
newsletters and on some web sites that fans were
not happy with the
fact that they had to buy a 8x10 picture or pay for
a Polaroid picture
after they had already paid for a ticket to a
session. I don't
believe that that is the fault of the person that you
are going to see. The
card shop is charging for the supplying the 8x10
pictures and Polaroid
film, with a bit of a marked-up cost to the fan.
Now, you are in line,
getting excited and you are finally getting to
meet your favorite
wrestler. Then you get a picture or an autograph or
both and quick "hi"
and it is time to move on... just like that. It is
not the fault of the
person you came to see. The card shop has sold so
many tickets and the
wrestler has only so much time to spend at the
session. The card shop
staff has to move everyone through the process
quickly to make sure
that everyone gets what they paid for and the
wrestler stays on his
schedule. In the end, the autograph sessions
host's staff should be
held responsible for any problems regarding the
line of fans and how
the session is handled.
I was not at the
autograph session that Mr. Curt Rapala had written
about. It sounds like
it was not a very structured event if there were
people who had paid
for pictures and autographs and others who were
there just to say
hello and shake Mr. Nash's hand mixed together in the
line.
In defense of Mr.
Nash, my husband and I have met Kevin at a couple of
personal appearances
over the years. He was nice and friendly to us and
to our young son. We
received our autographs, said "Hi" and a few other
words quickly and
moved on so that the next fan could have a chance. We
got what we paid for.
After all, we did not pay for a night out with
the guy, just an
autograph and a 8x10 picture. Having to pay for an
autograph is the
nature of the beast.
I am in agreement with
what Steve had posted about the value of an
autograph/sports
memorabilia. Just look at what is being auctioned off
on eBay or what
happened with Mark McGwire's home run baseballs and the
prices that people
were and are willing to pay for one.
-Lisa Maraschin (Lisamara)
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A VIEW ON WHO? WHO
ELSE?
Written by reader:
Patrick Murphy (stardog_99@xxxxs...)
This is addressed to
Greg, and his comments about
Kevin Nash and his
autograph signing policy. Mr Greg,
you claim to be a
wrestling insider, obviously you are
not. Anyone knows that
it is common policy for
wrestlers to charge a
fee for autographs at "trade
shows". You mentioned
Duane Gill and how he signed
hundreds of autographs
after a local indy card you
promoted. For your
information sir, Kevin Nash, as
well as most of the
other wrestlers always sign
autographs, sometimes
for hours after Nitro each week,
for free.
I am an employee of
Turner Sports, and I see
it each week. As for
your comment that Mr. Nash is an
a**hole, well sir just
like an a**hole, is an opinion.
Yours included. I have
been acquainted with KN for
over 9 years. My
family has been involved with the
business for well over
40. Kevin is one of the more
congenial wrestlers I
have meet.
You said Terry Bollea
is a "egomaniac". While I agree when it comes to
wrestling the Hulkster
has a certain arrogance about him. Then again,
he should. He has done
more for this sport, than any other single
performer ever. Terry
Bollea, the person, is very nice and great to
talk to, unless it
involves wrestling.
I, have spent hours
speaking to him (Hogan) about a subject we both
love. Harley
Davidsons. During all of our conversations about
motorcycles he was
never anything but nice. If you don't like Kevin
Nash, fine. Everyone
has their opinions. But before you go making lame
accusations
you may want to
examine what you say. It makes you look stupid, sir.
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A FIRSTHAND ENCOUNTER
WITH NASH
Written by reader:
STINGdremr
I have encountered
Kevin Nash on two different occasions. One, the
morning after a Nitro,
at the hotel, and the second, at an autograph
session near my home.
Both times Nash was a JERK. And that is putting
it mildly. Very cold
and very rude. Both times. Coincidence? Nope-
just Kevin Nash!
I have met over 40
wrestlers in the past and everyone was nice and had
the time to talk, if
not just sign an autograph (well, except for Curt
Hennig). So that goes
to show, they are not always what they seem.
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BURNING THE BRIDGE
Written by reader:
RanmaSolo
About the Nash thing.
The WWF did it with their Billionaire Ted bit...
it was novel. Made me
laugh a few times. Second time around the novelty
is gone and well...
The only laugh I got was when Hall said, "I don't
wanna burn my bridges
up North." Because as we all know that's
impossible in
wrestling. One name, "James Fullington." I rest my case.
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ECW & NITRO
Written by reader:
KyDDReDD
Okay, I've sat back
long enough and listened to this wrestling fan and
that wrestling fan
complain about how ECW was ALMOST the number two
wrestling show, and
how horrible it would be. One fan in issue #380
said: "what a major
blow that (ECW beating WCW in the 'ratings war')
would be for Ted
Turner." WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT ECW GETTING THEIR
JUST
DUES?!?! Each and
EVERY ECW show I've seen has be TOP OF THE
LINE!!!
For the "purist" ECW
has INCREDIBLE wrestling, and for the fans leaning
towards the "sports
entertainment" aspect of the game they run AWESOME
angles, and their
workers put over their gimmicks SUPERBLY!!! And if
they are any "new age"
wrestling fans out their who dig their hardcore,
you KNOW ECW can
provide!!!
Finally I wanted to
reiterate a point made by more than a few fans out
there; RATINGS
ARE NOT EVERYTHING!!! Nitro
has NOT won the "ratings
war" since Russo and
Ferrea have taken over, but IMNSHO (in my not so
humble opinion) Nitro
has been a better show for the past two weeks.
Granted, 50% of that
has been the mystery of "what are they gonna do
next" and after a
while it will wear off, but that's how Howard Stern
AND the WWF have gotten over
so who am I to knock it?? Until LaTeR...
This is BiG Redd, and
I AM OUT!!!
http://outlaws.u4l.com
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SMACKDOWN SPOILER
(Skip if you want to be surprised!)
Reported by Dan Stabb
& Curt Creighton at:
http://www.ultimowrestling.c
om/rwin/index.shtml
WWF Heat & Smackdown
Taping Results from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -
November 2, 1999
Sunday Night Heat
Results to air November 7, 1999
-Steve Blackman def. a
local worker.
-The Dudley Boyz beat
Sho Funaki and TAKA Michinoku with the 3-D.
-Val Venis beat
Christian with the Money Shot in what was probably the
best pure wrestling
match of the night. Christian got a surprisingly
huge reaction.
-The Acolytes vs.
Mideon and Viscera ended in a no-contest when the
referee disqualified
both teams.
Smackdown Taping
Results to air November 4, 1999
-The show started
right away with a tag title match between Mankind/Al
Snow and The Hollys.
Mankind hit the Double Arm DDT on Hardcore (I
believe) to capture
the Tag Titles. Huge pop for the win. Afterwards,
Al Snow and Mankind
celebrated with some of the other wrestlers
(Meanie, Hardyz,
Edge/Christian). But instead of the traditional
champagne bath, they
poured milk over themselves. Finally, Mankind said
he had some business
to tend to and left the party.
-Throughout the rest
of the show, Mankind was seen in a local Philly
strip club looking for
Val. These bits are simply too funny and I don't
want to spoil these
moments. Finally though, someone (presumably Venis)
took off with
Mankind's car. Val is later shown beating on Al Snow in
his dressing room.
Like I said, this bit pretty much spans the entire
show.
-Next, Steve Austin
was shown in the dressing room with JR, questioning
what he meant by
insinuating that Vince purposely tried to attack
Shane. JR simply said
he got caught up in the moment and he apologized.
-Next up was Test vs.
D'Lo Brown. The Posse stood at the entrance way.
Awkward ending with
D'Lo going for a flying axhandle and seemingly
twisting his knee. He
then seemed to sucker in Test with a small
package for the
3-count, but it seemed like two. D'Lo was still limping
after the match and
needed help back from Test and the referee, so I'm
not sure if the injury
is legit or not.
-Tori and Kane were
now shown conversing with JR about the whole
Vince-Shane deal. Once
again, JR assured them that he changed his mind
and was simply caught
up in the moment.
-Next up, Too Cool
fought the Hardy Boyz. The Hardys came out to a
pretty huge reaction.
Back and forth match that ended when Jeff hit his
senton splash for the
victory.
-Next, The Rock
confronted JR. Rock told him that if JR is lying, he'd
take his cowboy
hat...you know the rest.
-Next up, Edge fought
British Bulldog for the European Title. The Posse
and the Headbangers
were both at ringside. It seemed like Edge was
ready to take the win,
but Joey Abs interfered, causing the DQ.
Afterwards, a wild
brawl took place with all the participants involved,
sans Bulldog who took
off.
-Vince is shown
arriving in a limo. Later on, he gets really pissy with
JR about JR's calling
of Monday's match. JR apologized, and Vince
begrudgingly accepted.
-DX then came out to a
huge reaction, which quickly turned into boos
once HHH worked the
mic. They showed Monday's finish to the Shane/HHH
match, and went on to
introduce the newest member, Vince McMahon...or
so we thought. In a
really funny moment, McMahon's mike would not work,
which caused HHH to
say, "You own a billion dollar company. You have
stocks coming out your
ass, and you can't even get a working mic?!?" A
HUGE reaction to that
one. Once Vince got a new mike, he went on to say
that he would rather
be in the Ku Klux Klan or WCW (in the southern
drawl) than join DX.
Finally, Vince orders a Survivor Series matchup on
Smackdown featuring DX
against Shane, Kane, Rock, and Austin.
-The Godfather then
came out to face Chris Jericho, but not before
Jericho hyped his
match against Chyna (in typical Jericho fashion). A
brief match, which saw
Stevie Richards come out dressed like a
ho/cheerleader and
Stevie kicking Jericho. Godfather hit the Ho Train
and got the win over
Y2J.
-Backstage Lillian
Garcia interviews Stevie, who talks about how much
he admires Chyna, even
spelling out her name in cheerleader fashion.
Funny segment.
-Next, Big Show took
on the Big Bossman. Not a long (or good) match at
all. Both men get
counted out, but that doesn't stop Big Show from
chokeslamming the
Bossman in the ring. Prince Albert runs down to
ringside and gets the
same treatment. Tony Garea, Dave Hebner, and Sgt.
Slaughter (who got
slammed to a huge pop) suffered the same fate.
-During the break
(which there were WAY too many of) Bob Backlund was
seen in the stands
campaigning.
-Main event time. The
pops for Shane and Kane were decent, Rock's was
tremendous, but
Austin's was HUGE! Vince came down a few minutes into
the match. Shane and
Kane were the first two eliminated, followed by
Road Dogg and X-Pac.
The Rock eliminated Mr. Ass, but Mr. Ass continued
to do a number on him.
HHH hit Rock with the Pedigree to eliminate "The
Great One." Finally,
with the ref distracted by Mr. Ass, Vince came in
with the belt, and
just like Monday, it seemed like he was ready to hit
HHH. But HHH threw
Austin in front of him, nailed Vince for his
troubles, and got the
win over Stone Cold. The show ends as Vince is
saying he didn't mean
it while Austin is completely chewing him out.
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